Re HD I started doing back exercises, and they really helped. Yes they do. One big problem I have is sitting. It screws up some of the gains I make doing the exercises. Now I have to figure a way to work laying down. I guess that is called lounging on the beach.
I an re-listening to the KLA CD's I have. I am not into reading much right now but I transferred the KLA CD's to my MP3 player and listen to the KLA messages while putzing around or exercising.
There are 12 sections to the KLA messages. Starting with message 6 or 7, there are reminders to look for things that work or we have control of in a R, not what is missing or what is wrong with the r. Also some of the 180 things are emphasised.
Coast, coast, coast. Anyone from the forum that stops by in the next 30 seconds, I will buy lunch.
Lou, Does 3 minutes count? I like a good reuben, heavy on the swiss. What are you having?
I don't mind the sun sometime
The images it shows
I can taste you on my lips
And smell you in my clothes
Cinnamon and Sugar
And softly spoken lies
You never know just how you look
Through someone elses eyes
BHS-"Pepper"
Re cine Does 3 minutes count? Actually, come anytime. I just mentioned the 30 seconds so I didn't sound too desperate. You are all welcome at my front door any time.
Rubins, yes I love those and make them once a month.
Re Qoe100 gigolo??? Could I earn my keep being on the bottom and giving back and hair rubs? I am highly skilled? That is something I am certain of.
I am sort of teasing you because you once posted liking your hair stroked. I will slap my own hand if you feel I am out of line.
I remember you had all of that tooth and implant pain. I was surprised how long that was. I haven't read anything about your dental work so was thinking you are all fixed up now. I hope you are.
I have been down the back pain road many times. I just have to walk a while before I run. Physical therapy tomorrow at 8 A.M.
Gosh,I'm so sorry to hear about your pain. I read a good book about back pain but I can't remember the author or the title. The basic premise was that the issue cannot be resolved with any one approach. They suggest things like meditation, healthy lifestyle, exercise, and other stuff I can't remember. They did address the role of pain killers, muscle relaxers and surgical options. Anyway, the point was that back pain is a complicated and painful issue. Hang in there Lou.
Two years ago I went to the bathroom in the middle of the night and suddenly could not stand back up because of the pain. I'm young fit, strong flexable and I was crippled by a toilet? I know how much back pain sucks I tried alot of things your back probably is different.
"Trigger point therapy" was the last out of many things that I tried so its difficult to say if it alone was the cure, but I think in my case it was the solution. The other things I tried were drugs, acupucture, chiropractic alignment, massage, yoga and two different physiotherapists these all helped but were no magic bullets.
In the end the pain was caused by some cramps in some small stabalizer muscles in my butt throwing everything out of whack and over working some back muscles that just plain gave out.
A good one is Healing Back Pain by John Sarno. There was a feature on one of the evening tv mags about it a few years ago. One of his theories is that back pain is caused by repressed anger, because shutting down the emotions constricts the blood vessels and the back muscles are deprived of the blood supply they need to remain flexible and supple. Don't even think of having any surgery until you read this book.
Re corri You are not powerless, Lou. Neither is Hairdog, or any other person here. We just all, for our own reasons, limit our own choices, by our own CHOICE. I know many of the ways I limit myself and most are related to what I consider to be fairness issues. I know BB dislikes some of the things I do, especially with my business at home, so I giver her handicap points or allow her to do things I don't like.
I also know I am sort of chicken to do what you did and just end the R, but there are other things I could do less drastic but in some way want to avoid the fall out of those actions because I am hoping to come up with something that seems less painful emotionally.
I try to look at our R from sort of a third person position and think, if I do A BB gets short changed, if I do B Lou gets short changed.
For now I am mostly coasting and considering what I learned so far about R's, to just bring me up to what I should have known 5, 10, or 30 years ago.
When we feel we have no choice, when we feel powerless... that is exactly what we are. I don't feel powerless per say but the fact that anyone or a SO in this case, can have opposing ideas that are just as important to them, as mine are to me. We are both right for the individual in question, but being right is not helping the R.
I have been listening to the Schnarch interview post the TV sessions on TV, and see where self esteem, self worth, relationship power balances, and relationship assets, are not what they should be and I need to come up with some more independent self mental strengthening before many improvements take place.
According to the Schnaerch Internet cast, I am putting too much emphasis on the R and not spending enough time and effort on looking at myself past the R and separate from the R.
Re Martelo In the end the pain was caused by some cramps in some small stabilizer muscles in my butt throwing everything out of whack and over working some back muscles that just plain gave out. I don't have any nerve compression so surgery is not in the picture. MY physical therapist did say a group of muscles were over developed and others underdeveloped.
Two years ago I went to the bathroom in the middle of the night and suddenly could not stand back up Yes, The stories I have heard are of the type where the person did about nothing and had severe problems. One doc I went to picked up her 8# cat and wound up having surgery. As opposed to the piano mover/tuner whose printer I repair. He works solo and rarely has back pain.
Re Lil A good one is Healing Back Pain by John Sarno. Thanks for the recommendation Lil.
One of his theories is that back pain is caused by repressed anger, because shutting down the emotions constricts the blood vessels and the back muscles are deprived of the blood supply they need to remain flexible and supple. Lil, At first I thought my back problems were all from working too much but then I looked back and saw a pattern. When I work too much, I am usually trying to make up for some loss of something. Having that loss causes stress. After all of the less severe back episodes, there is stress involved in 90% of the beginnings of painful periods.
This last session of pain was preceded by me worrying about the R with BB, wanting to get some money for the stuff I was throwing away but knowing the market for the parts I was getting rid of, is mostly over because my customers moved to newer printers so sales of those parts is going to be very, very slow now even if they were my best selling parts 3 years ago. Time marches on but I still remember the good times.
I suppose some anxiety over not wanting to go to the ER on Sunday actually made my back worse. It fits into the idea of stress caused pain and how to manager it. It might not be all in the head but I am seeing at least half is all how a person thinks.
Don't even think of having any surgery until you read this book I had surgery in 1981 after trying things for 3 months, so no, I am trying everything else.
Back in 1981 I had nerve compression, tingling sensation down my leg and in my foot, and muscle weakness along with the pain.
No sign of nerve compression this go around.
Typical reaction from BB during all this drama, very attentive, worried about me, even brought me a cup of coffee and rubbed my back, however I couldn't get her clothes off. I couldn't be on top now but being on the bottom is almost like some of the therapy exercises.
Just curious, Is anyone doing the "Peace Between the Sheets" items or anyone listening to "Keeping Love Alive" CD's?
Lou
I guess that is called lounging on the beach. 
That is something I am certain of. 
As opposed to the piano mover/tuner whose printer I repair. He works solo and rarely has back pain.