Hi PL, I agree with you. H is still "involved" with OW and he is "sweeping" things under the rug as far as our conversations go. I don't know how to move forward on this though. Quitting his job is just not that easy, we are heavily in debt. I have applied for two waitressing positions in the last week but that is going to help us get by, not get out of debt. Maybe I'll see if I can bring up the counseling thing again, I don't know though cause he is very against it. I don't want to give him an ultimatim just yet either probably because of my fear of his reaction and that he may not choose me.