Thanks Jeff,
Yes watching her leaving for an over night date does suck. Took her to vote in local election and then took her to train station so she could meet up with date futher down track. Told her I'd wait for train with her as there can be alot of deadheads around train stations. Kept convo. light whilst waiting. Told her I hoped she has a great time etc. if she didn't want to stay the night to phone me and I'd come and get her. Nothing heavy. Got first hug in a long time as she boarded train, didn't let tears show till she had gone. She did txt me to tell me she'd arrived safely and again later to tell me people she was meeting up with were ok and she was comfortable staying the night. I replied both time 'good have a great time c u tomorrow'. Have suggested that we go somewhere next weekend (our anniversary next sunday) but will not be preassuring her about it or buying anni. present, might just give her a card to say thanks for the years together. What do you think?

Any males out there read 'No More Mr Nice Guy' by Robert A Glover. I was mentioned on this forum and I was wondering if anyone had any success in their sit. by becoming an intergrated male.

Feel that being too nice all the time is making me feel abit like a doormat. Actually having mixed feelings alot lately. One moment I'm all for keeping up the DBing next I'm all for giving up totally and telling her to go and get f%^&ed. I know I won't, but the feeling keeps coming back, it is only nine months post bomb and going on 5 months separated.

Whan is she going to see that the changes I've made are not just temporary. Probably never. I think she will just keep on dating other people, can't see that she will find someone to take on four dependant school age children in a hurry. Hopefully that fact will work in my favour.

Oh well good luck to all fighting the good fight.
Paul

Feel I've done all I can in regard to changing the old Paul to The New Paul. W needs to be the one to change now.