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Yes, I'm living w/them. His father lives on the east coast. He had him only for about 2 weeks each year, so sS15 got everything he wanted there.


Except self esteem.



YES, I agree

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I see him every day. He is ignoring me. I tried to talk to him 'man to man' but then days or weeks later I learned he was just lying to me or telling me BS.


First off, he is not a man, he is a teenager. Is there ANYTHING he likes to do that YOU like to do?



No, he wants to be as far away from me as possible. He is IM on the comp the whole day. Or out w/friends. No interest in sport. We do listen to the same music. But he doesn't even like to go to a rock concert w/me.

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When I tried to discipline him I was overuled by W all the time. She just said I'm mean to him.


My W said the same things to me about our D15. She has since come to realize that 'mean' is not the same as 'do not give them what they think they want all the time'.

My COunselor told me I should have been more solid and not let W call the shots. I do now.



My W is not there yet. As I wrote earlier she is pi$$ed at S15 C b/c C tells her to be a lot firmer. She seems to be unable to do that. Even now. And I also find parenting is a lot easier when it is regarding our D5. I have a lot more to say and decide than w/sS15. I'm not his REAL father.

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In a way it's kind of funny. W blames me for everything that happened in her life and so does he.


Then take the responsibility to fix it. REGARDLESS of what happens with you and W, you took on this responsibility when you married her and you can't run away from it.






Taking responsibilty w/o being able to DO anything doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Frank, same as w/Amy, I really appreciate your comments. But if I do something, then get kicked out, I'm not changing anything besides not being able to at least do something for my D5.