Thanks Sven, big help. I vaguely remembered the Paul and Anne 180 but I was a total newb when that discussion was going on. I just did a search and found it. Didn't realize that was what I was doing but it seems we all kinda run the same course don't we.
Thanks for pointing me to the threads. I'll be reading them and yes I will be dressed to kill tommorrow.
A phoenix huh, how funny, I've been looking for phoenix pics the past couple of days. Thats what I want wrapped around the chinese character. How funny. Told my wife a few weeks ago I wanted a phoenix tat. She said "rising from the ashes huh" been kind of a theme in our life.
Did you know that the phoenix is in many cultures and has other related meanings. In Christianity of course it is the symbol of resurrection. Rising from the ashes in all cultures it is present in. But in Chinese it also symbolizes Marital Harmony. It represents the force that unites yin and yang and makes them one. It is bestowed only upon royalty. Neat huh.
I will concentrate on the key. Do not waver, stay lovingly detached.