I always felt she was way out of my reach. If I ever did speak to someone like this I would be so uncomfortable and nervous, the experience would leave me drained I had similar feelings and experiences Cobra.
I found better rapport with girls who wanted to talk to me, who seemed interested in a two way conversation, ........... This of course was appealing to their mothering needs, but it was also appealing to my need to be wanted. Same here.
Cobra, I suspect that once someone like an extrovert woman gives enough, they expect something in return and anything we give (attention, gifts, love, companionship) is accepted at first, which makes the shy guy feel good, especially if in his FOO he was rarely good enough.
Let me know if anything does not make sense. It makes sense so far to define some of the problems, so what are the solutions?
If the neglected, good for nothing in the parent's eye kids still feel as if their W doesn't appreciate them, what is one solution towards feeling appreciated?
I know many guys know they are appreciated as a father but see some guys not feeling appreciated as a H.
