GH Your blowout and the sitch sounds almost word for word like mine (except my w is going the gay route)! What our w's are doing sounds so insane to anyone with a brain, but to them it's right over their heads. The wedding ring thing is typical as is the lack of ability to look at separation as reasonable. My w has a little shrine in our bedroom with all my cards, little gifts etc. displayed. Does that make sense? She also told me "I think we can still live together" and I replied "You really are f****** nuts aren't you" (I'm usually more gentle and polite). My point, if you try and figure out where her head is at you'll go insane. I don't anymore, in fact, I've taken to jotting down every bizarre thing she says for fun e.g. "I've always been honest with you about everything except this affair" Yes, you are truly a saint dear!!!You are right GH GAL and grow as a person and a father. I have found so many amazing things about myself and about life since this mess began. I hope my w comes around but if she doesn't I am a much better person than I was before. You will be too. Lastly, don't push therapy, counselling etc anymore. You have given her your 2 cents worth (as I did with my w) and now they must make their own journeys. Stay strong GH.