but i thought i said that when i told her i was just responding to her the way she responded to me? thats not being truthful? i mean, to me - in my mind that says... see, it doesnt feel good when you act this way towards your S does it? I think you get it..... your saying that is not being strong?

i do understand strong and stable are equals - they support one another. its much easier to have both than to have one over the other... i like to think i have both, but i am lacking them somewhere

plus, if i would say i am not giving affection to someone who wont accept it, she would just end up saying: i am showing you affection, i am kissing you, touching you, etc -- and of course me being man -- duh..... she got me on that one