Andy,

I will say that it's a very good sign that she did not respond with "nothing". That indicates mucho frustration and. . ." there's no point trying to explain 'cause you don't listen anyway and I might as well just do it myself. . . " Ya'll know what I mean.

Andy. This is important. You, like me are bending over backwards to make the environment safe. Sage is aware of this and so is your wife.

It is important that you not become invisible, Andy. Let your light shine. Eat those celery seeds that I read about in Andy's Story.

Why did the coffee ritual stop? Rituals are so important, especially when the ritual provides a together time.

What happened w the blood work? Maybe that's part of it? Results should be back about now.

I don't like that guy disrespecting his wife and getting his quality time needs met with other women. He needs to bond w the guys. Work on his marriage yada yada yada.


How to close the exit (hanging out with this guy who is disrespecting his marriage) and get your wife to focus on home is the question I want to ponder.


She has to want to do such and such to make it real for her. What can You do that will promote this. Something different.

You hug her if you want to; don't expect anything in return. Even in withdrawal, Sage accepts hugs.