She already blew, Lily. That's why W and I are personna non grata.

His turn is next.

Yuck indeed!

As to "out of our lives for good", it won't happen unless she bars him entirely from seeing his friends, and even then, I don't know.

He's told my W that he's staying in his M for his daughter's sake. I feel so badly for them.

As for me, I'm still having a tough time accepting W's lack of affection. S#2 has settled down some, but W still isn't sleeping.

This morning, I asked her if something's bothering her, or if it's just overtiredness. she said she doesn't know.

Can she sense that I want her to love me, but she doesn't?

Maybe I'm exaggerating my own importance. It may not be about me at all. But if it isn't, then why won't she tell me what's wrong?

Andy