Kaw and T-bone-Your right of course,damn you! I'm mad now and its not at you its at me and my H. I hate what he's done and what I've become. I'm telling you , this is not me! Ok, so Lily says no mention of OW for 21 days. It's been 4 or 5 but I have said zilch about her. You say TB don't initiate sex for 2 weeks. What good is that? It will only fuel his fire that I don't give him what he needs and he was right all along that the sex thign wouldn't last! Ok-so let him initiate. That will be interesting. I guess by having sex with him I am assuming he will not go out and have it with her which is bull because while we were separated he had sex with me the whole time he was seeing her! What is it with these people??? What do they want from us? Our very souls? I feel like I've lost me totally, but you know what? He won't see that when he comes home. He never does-he has NO IDEA the torment I am going through. NONE. I suppose you think that's a good thing. Well, I guess it is-It would serve me NO purpose to let him see me like this because he would not have a single clue what to do but run. You had to say the thing about the contact T-bone. I can't let myself beleive he is still lying to me. I can't. HE swore and promised he would never again do it to me. If he does I'm done. I will gladly take 50 % of everything (or more) he owns and he can have the old hag. Talk about unattractive! No one else wants her. He even says he does not want her life. It's crazy with all kinds of kids and her mother and grandkid living there. HE told me he never wanted to marry her-so do you think he's about to leave me and lose 50% of everything for someone he has no intention of ever marrying??? I'll take your advise-no ititaion for 2 weeks and we'll see what happens. He leaves the end of this month for a 10 day motorcycle trip with our next door neighbor. I can't say I'm sad either. I will at least know he's not sleeping with her!! Rachael M.