tbone, I just read your post and am too in a sit. where my H is "acting as if" himself. A brief rundown of my (our) sit. is at the "I need Support" page titled "Is he coming around". That way I don't need to type it all again here. Baby steps is what I'm seeing here. I'll take it. I never believed all the love for me was gone in him or I think he would have been outta here, kids or not. the last few weeks my H has been more loving and affectionate. He told me once during the time it was really, really bad that he wasn't in love and wanted to be. That was hard to hear because I took that as him wanting to be in love but NOT with me. He is trying. I'm also trying very hard and keeping the PMA going. he's even told me he wants me to be more postive. Negativity has gotten me into trouble before. I have learned so, so much through all of this and even in the midst of the really bad times since Feb. I told myself that this may be what we really needed because we couldn't continue in the destructive way that we were. I keep hoping that with him acting as if that the feelings of love will return for me. He knows that I love him and that saving my M is extremely important to me, however he also knows I will not be a doormat. I also won't live in a affectionless/loveless M. Well I'm getting affection and I think there is even love there too but he's being cautious and I don't blame him. the day he tells me again that he loves me will be a day for me to celebrate. Thanks for listening- reading. Tiel