Re fran The wimps in my life I have known find it difficult to be assertive without coming off aggressive, they have no fine control in that area and tend to over-steer wildly.
That is a good topic for further discussion,

This laziness is handing her power, power I believe she is actually uncomfortable wielding, it is what is making her so anxious and therefore even more controlling - she is scared everything will slide into chaos.
Fran, HD. This is almost what the "Dog Whisper" has to say about dogs that don't see a pack leader so they become the pack leader only to be come unbalanced and screw up the works.

I really like the idea of fine control and how to avoid over-steering.

Happy 4th July (through gritted teeth)
England couldn't handle us so we followed our own pack leader.

I have read some of your history and your country did the same thing.

Lou