Mrs.Nop
time to start talking specifics and practicing some radical honesty

yeah I thought that was what we were talking about too.
HD's 'mensch' mentality seems to say to him, --If what I say may cause conflict, even if its honest, that wouldnt be very nice. That is what I get from his civil disobedience comment.

HD? is this right?

it was funny, I get the flip humor, but she isnt your task master to be telling you what obedient is, or is not. you want a partner and a lover, not a mother.