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#74810 06/20/02 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by Rachael M:
In working with our therapist, we do alot of mirroring. It's the most non-natural thing to do- leave your country, and totally go over to your spouses country-see things as they see them-not that you can but when you are out of your country and in theirs, you do not think of you and what you are going to say nest-you are totally focusing on what they are telling you and by mirroring validating that they are being heard. It's a gift you give each other. It takes thought and practice to doit outside of counceling, but it is basically a listening skill-its works. You do feel validated and heard but only when they are guinually in YOUR country. Make sense?

Mirroring, or echoing is what I am working on with my therapist. Thanks for stating it so well.

When I have been successful at it the results are amazing.You have to keep doing it to make it second nature in all of your comunication.

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Hey gang!

Finally got a chance to pop over here and read through this thread. Great stuff!!

I'll have to make it back here more often!

Thanks!

JJ


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#74812 06/24/02 09:22 AM
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Andy,

Hope you had a Happy Birthday!!!

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For those who may have missed this in my earlier threads, my second son has Pervasive Development Disorder (PDD). From the get-go, his psychiatrist maintained that the ideal place for him would be in a class for PDD children. Failing that, he should be placed in a normal class and have special help. He needed a positive environment to develop his social skills and also was academically capable to learn. With the psychiatrist’s support, we pushed for him to be placed in such a class for the past three years.

But the school principal, as well as his teachers insisted on placing him in a “functional autonomy” class. This class is for children with Down’s Syndrome and autism. Therefore, S#2 was in a situation where his “role models” were intellectually and behaviorally impaired. Also, this class did virtually nothing academically.

Friday, W got a call from S#2’s teacher. She told W that S#2 had been misdiagnosed. [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes]

There is another school that has classes specifically for PDD children, and she felt that (for the above reasons), that is where he should be placed next year.

Two years ago, this news would have been an immense relief. I guess after banging my head against a wall for so long, I just resigned myself to the fact that he would not get the help he needed. It’s strange that I don’t feel any relief over this.

But, I’m so happy!

Thanks for the b-day wish, Lily. Actually, "had" isn't the word. It's today [Smile]

Andy


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As a teacher, your son's current placement sounds like a no-brainer. Where were their heads before?

HAPPY BIRTHDAY! [Smile]

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Did I say had? I do mean HAVE a wonder-filled and very Happy Birthday!!!

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Good news about your S.

Happy Birthday!!

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Thanks for the bd wishes everyone.

I was just browsing around the boards and came across a post from Michele which I think (surprise surprise) applies to many – if not all – of us.

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Originally posted by Michele June 20 on Concerning "I don't know if I love you anymore":

Tim,
I share your feeings about the "I love you but I'm not in love with you anymore," or something like that syndrome. It's exasperating.

But I don't think it's as confusing as you do. Love is a decision. It's not just a feeling. In order to maintain love over time, you have to decide each morning to do the things that will bring you close to your spouse and stop doing things that push you further away. You need to spend time together. YOu need to listen to each other, talk, make love, show interest in your spouse's life. Love is a decision to do all these things even when you aren't feeling crazy about your spouse. Love is a commitment.

So when one person says, "I don't love you anymore," what s/he is saying is "I don't feel like putting energy into this marriage." "I'm going to focus on all the bad times we've had and that will make me feel distant from you." "If I feel distant and separate from you, I can focus on me and make myself happy." It really is a decision to cut oneself off from positive feelings about the marriage.

If you've had good times together in your marriage, those memories don't just disappear. They live within us. However, sometimes when people burn out in a marriage, they bury those good feelings and memories so deep, it almost seems as if they're not there anymore. People convince themselves that the loving feelings have evaporated. They sometimes even tell themselves that they never loved you in the first place. This allows them to pull away. IT's a rationalization. But it's a rationalization that really hurts when you are the receiver of it.

So I understand your feelings. But you need to remember that whatever you feel in your heart about your marriage is real. Your wife's current perspective is colored by her need to pull away right now. Don't over-react and whatever you do, stop trying to point out to her that she isn't thinking clearly or seeing things accurately. That will only make her more certain she doesn't love you. And I know you don't want that.

Keep DBing and hang in there.

Michele

I’ve posted before about my own sit with respect to the fact that my W was just too exhausted to participate in OR. I also think that selective memory made her decision to take a time out easier. She owed me nothing since I gave her nothing. This is an oversimplification, but that’s sorta where her head was at.

So, what worked for me? I’ve often posted that I tried to become (in actions) the H that my inflated ego thought I was. Basically, I tried my best to take whatever pressure I could off of W’s shoulders.

Including the pressure to “hold up her end” of the R.

It’s still not easy a lot of the time, but if the truth be known, she is making an effort. Why? Because she doesn’t feel pressured into it.

Lily, Duchess, Wilma, and so many others are trying to do the same thing. It’ll work everyone. I know it will.

Andy


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Wow, Andy.

You are right on it again!

Bless you for your finding Michele's post to share w us on your b'day!!!

I am glad that the teacher came forward to say that your son was placed in the wrong environment. To have a professional say this will surely help him to obtain the environment he needs in order to thrive.

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Thanks Andy..I've copied it.

Where's Wilma?

Duchess

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