I don't think you really understand how severe things have been in my household [Roll Eyes] . I'm really not being glib [Big Grin] . I understand what you're saying about your voices and am telling you what I've seen IGgy do as well as myself and my own voices. Part of it really is not pressuring yourself but consistently working it. And when you fall off the horse every ten seconds keep trying without beating yourself up. It will most likely never be 100% gone but it will be much more live with-able and when things get rougher you can retreat and get back on course. If, in really doing that - say for a good month - you still aren't seeing any results, maybe another trip to the doctor may not be a bad idea. Unless you don't think that's a good idea. Then it goes to working around it and also making sure that the solution works for her as well as you.

As for the rest - I do remember how strenuous your life is right now with the kids and all. Not discounting the lack of rest at all. Just please don't discount my surface approach. When the car knocks & pings, sometimes it's not thousands of $ to repair. And sometimes even when once before it was, the next time it may not be.

The original thing seemed to be how to get her to talk and for you to listen. You are making great progress but your tendancy to dig in and root up everything is full boar again from what I see. It gets really frustrating to try to say something to someone and have them consistently bat everything away without really seeming to understand you in the first place. A response for everything. I used to be really really bad at that (still am sometimes) and it's damn hard to just sit back and say I hear you. I appreciate what you're saying. I agree or disagree but I hear what you're saying. Or just saying nothing at all.

I also find that those of us who do that are most likely to not appreciate it when others do it to us.

So I'm just suggesting it might behoove you to slow down and not work this like a puzzle that must be solved immediately. Chances are, you guys may just be living life to the max until the kids are older. And with the one, you may always have that stress so it's best to keep on the path of learning how to incorporate it into life as it is instead of trying to find a fix that may not be. But I know you know this stuff - it's just getting it to work for the two of you.

I'm wondering what Michele would say here. What do you think she'd say? I have a couple of ideas but wonder what you or someone else would say.