JJ - Thanks, I'm realizing that it will be a long process. I also know now that part of my problem is that when she cracks the door just a little, i try to open it up the whole way - Too much pressure right now. I need to detach from the drama and play it cool. Not much new in my world. I have backed off the last few days and taking what she gives me. No talks, etc. I have been detached and working on myself and taking care of my kids. She talks about the future like we will be together so ....??? I feel like i have used a life time supply of patience. I am just trying to do things for myself and discovering how fun life can be for myself. Take care. With prayers Tim