Kent- the driving car thing... oh yeah... the feelings... My C says the same thing... some of it rooted - she says - to things my mom would say or do... the fatalistic thing that even though I see one thing... the feelings I am having do not match what is really going on. Whoa... those are tough to change... but change they must. Trying to rid myself of things I heard all my life... "things are good... they'll get bad!" have to be really worked hard to be removed.
As Michele says... DBing really does become a way of life. You can't stop... it's really working on the marriage and the R and being aware all the time isn't it?
R8ch... will son and H consent to some sort of "facilitated process" - let's not use the C word... - to help them forge a new relationship and some modicum of respect or SOMETHING for each other?? So that the one person they BOTH love and respect can find peace and hapiness?