Andy,

How about this approach: ask W if she is willing to try incorporating a little romance back into the R one step at a time. Like, maybe just sitting close to each other while watching t.v. in the evening (even if it's only one program), or maybe holding hands for 2 minutes, or trying to have a 10-second kiss once a day, etc. You get the picture. Just one small token a day and say you'll try it for a week or a month or whatever. After that, see if she's willing to add something else in. Tell her it's just to "see if she can get her feelings back" and that you won't put too much stock in it (yeah right),so she doesn't have to feel pressured.

I think until some of these small intimacies are reestablished it will be very hard for your W to start "growing" her feelings again. Since the door was opened a little bit today with your OR conversation, how about sticking your big toe in and see what happens. Maybe you should start another thread called "Romancing the Stone".

I'm having a great V day (hope that doesn't sound like gloating). I'm going to try to post later.
For now I need to get stuff done because tonite promises to be wonderful. I've already received a V card (said he was blessed that I still loved him), an E-mail V card, and a box of my favorite candy (he didn't forget my favorites!!). Plus he's called me 4 times already, and it's not even noon yet. Sorry. Maybe that does sound a little like gloating, but I know you'll understand. My PMA is very high today.

LOL,

M