Oh, Andy, you and your W have come so far. You know the PMA comes and goes. It's difficult to continue giving space when you don't appear to be getting back what you need (not want). But what's the alternative at this point? You already know the answer to that questions.

Our M lacked intimacy for the past several years. Only now do I realize how important that is to a M and what real intimacy is. For some reason I just never understood before. Now I'm ready to give that intimacy, but my H doesn't want it.

Are we ever ready at the same time? My reading of this bb says it DOES happen for some. I guess I'm hoping you (and I) will find that place sometime soon.

Keeping hanging on, Andy. You're doing SOOOOOO well! [Smile]