shippd, I can't speak for muddle, but i think he decided long ago, weighing all the potential consequences of his actions, not to try to stop her from going. Am I right muddle? That's why i keep challenging him about that, because he has been VERY clear about why he is "ok" with her going on a certain level, because she needs to learn to be on her own, to grow as an individual and experience life and all that comes with making her own decisions.
That HAS been your position in the past, right muddle? I don't want to put words in your mouth.
Shippd, I agree, this may very well be the turning point in his sitch but you know I don't really agree with forcing the issue. I DO agree that it worked for you, and mind you, if memory serves me right, there was no "big event" that triggered your "action" you just finally had enough and decided to take a stand, right? If so, that time comes at a different point for all of us.
I also agree that her getting physical with OM could complicate things immensely but like you said, you and your W are back together and doing well after a similar sitch so... it's NOT the end all. It's just a REALLY difficult thing to deal with, as if the rest of this were not.
Like I think muddle has been saying, this is REALLY difficult and I don't think it's in any way cut and dried.
