Quote: Nope, not at all. Actually, I am suggesting that you are helping her do nothing, which is NOT OK.
Point already agreed to...then argued again. Gotta stop doing that.
Quote: Uh, why in the world do you think I keep telling you that you need to set some boundaries about the treatment you are willing to accept? You can't control what she does, but you can control what you accept and how you behave based on what you are getting.
Ok. Don't know what else to say but ok. I get it but it's hard to actually DO for me. Dunno why. Probably decades of doing differently in general and one doing it with her.
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Now, if she has flat out made it clear that she will not have sex with you, why are you continuing to torture yourself? "W, I love the physical intimacy between us, but it is simply too painful for me to keep up when it never includes lovemaking. I feel like you are treating me like your brother, and I find it humiliating and emasculating. I am not willing to live in a sexless M forever, but I am willing to give you some more time now to work through things. But, I cannot keep trying to increase the passion in our M when you are not also engaged in that project. I'm going to have to take a break from that for awhile. But, again, I am not willing to put it on hold forever, or even for a long time. This is something we need to work on together for this M to work for me.
Are you a scriptwriter? This is GOOD stuff. Wish I had thougt of it, but even though I didn't, I will use it. You have articulated my thoughts perfectly, once again. It took some bumps and bruises to get here but...
And there there is this, which needs a quote of it's very own...
Quote: In the meantime, I need to respect my own feelings, back off, and plan to satisfy myself sexually in a healthy way alone for awhile. Of course, I will always welcome your assistance. In the meantime, buy your own KY and I'll buy mine."
I think I will not be using this part. It's funny as hell and has me rolling but a little TMI for me. She knows I can "take care of myself" and probabaly thinks I am getting carpel-tunnel by now so I don't really need to go there.
Thanks again for this help. I am printing your "script" as we speak.