Good post Kent. John, Kent is right. Db or the realization that we do have control over our own lives and the way we react to those in it is a change from winging life and hanging on. It brings a new sense of well being and control of ourselves, where we are headed and what kind of relationships we want. As evidenced by many on this board that came here because their marriage was failing, some get divorced and realize that their spouse would never "get it".
This reminds me of "it" alot. Remember the movis City Slickers. The old dude ranch guy played by Jack Palance? He told Billy Crystals character, who was lost and confused in his life about how he thought his life should be and the reality that it was and who he was, he told him just one thing really matters and what that is, is different for everyone.
Welcome to the journey to enlightenment John. I never thought I could live with such peace in my life even the the world sways around me. I'm finally detached from the everyday BS that life can bring and the people who choose to struggle with life everyday. The people who think the world owes them something just because they were born. Ex LF was like that. Every day there was some kind of drama. Her life was one giant rollercoaster with great highs, but on the other side were botteming out lows. She could have changed all of that if she choose to do so, but she can't. She is so wrapped up in her self and creates a world where nothing ever goes right, no one really loves her or understands her. Her life everyday is a contridiction. For example she says she is very independant. But almost everyday she was on the phone with mommy and daddy, they are the only ones that listen to her myriad of problems which are self created by her very thoughts about her life. She can't see it and at one time I was the same way. Your Wife needs time to see this John, so its best for you to let her. You have probly seen it here many times but you need to let her crash. You rescued her again and look where you are. She needs to fall before she can get back up. Best wishes Ron.