i deep down really want this to work, i have stuck it out for a long time now. and yes i am getting to the point of (wanting to give up), i know i would still have issues with her i we got a D. i know it would devastate the kids, i know all the damage it will cause, that is why i am still trying, working on our marriage, and yes maybe i havent been the best dber, i havent really done the right things all the time, only some times.and i guess what ever damage i done last night i have to live with, (which was probally unrepairabul) i will wait and see how today goes.