deejay, thanks for the advice, i have read your post and i know its not going to be easy but man im up for the challange. w told me last night that she IS MOVING HOME THIS WEEKEND. GREAT NEWS!!! the way i look at it is she has now chosen me and not the om, so hopefully if i keep reminding myself that i will be fine. i know for a fact that with my sitch, there were a couple of things i did to help bring her home. 1)i got books on relationships, bding the best. 2)i changed for myself and she noticed. 3)i showed her i still loved her even after finding out about A. 4)i talked her into ML and showed her that it was ok, i could still do that (which she did not think i could ever do again) i took every oppertunity i had (when she gave them to me) to do the little things that make all the differnece. it has been a long and rocky road, and for everyone in here, if you truly love you s, please have faith, pray, get a life for yourself, and forgive your s, its the main key, forgivness. GH i want to personally thank you for all your advice, you helped me out alot. i know you are having some rough times right now, just hang in there, you will be fine.