again grasshopper your right, i know that, just needed someone else tell me.. i have made a commintment to myself to not ask her for anything, time, hugs, kisses, nothing. which is a 180 for me. i will take what she gives me and go with that, with no expectations. your have giving me some great advice today and much apricatated. (cant spell) i will let you know how my night goes with her, she wants to go by ourselfs with out the kids, so hopefully we will have a good time.
