man, great advice, your right about it all. i have known it also but didnt want to admit it. i know and want her to honestly come back to me for her, not me. because i know it wont work again, if she comes back only for me and the kids. she did call me and wanted to have lunch today. just got back! lunch went well just had small talk. when we were done i did not try for a kiss this time, i only blew her one and she smiled and blew one back. she wants to go tonite to get a new outfit for me to goto her sisters wedding this weekend(i need new cloths because of all the weight i lost). my question is this do i go with her or do i go by myself(she has always bought my cloths inthe past, maybe a 180 would work tonight). i know she is trying to open up with me, im just the type that wants instint satifaction, which i am trying to change, but that is my nature. saleman by trade, love to close the deal, but cant on this one.