Re Lil I deliberately delay the O for as long as possible-- sometimes an hour or more-- because once the O happens, it's all over.

I remember you saying you took a longer time on some occasions, "rolling around a grain of rice" if I remember correctly.

Lets say making out and having sex involves desire, a buzz, an explosion, melting, and some warm fuzzies.

To me the NHK involves the desire, and buzz and hopefully some warm fuzzies for both of us.

When I am in the buzz mode, I try to be more connected to BB because I want her to be connected to me. I hope some of that shows through somehow.

Maybe that buzz zone is creating more EC or oxytocins, I don't know.

It could be creating resentment if it includes penetration, from what I read, posted by LDW that just want to get it over with.

Hopefully w/o penetration, I can be in my buzz zone and BB will see that NHZ is more than just sex, and will lead to more or better EC.

She's just saying that with this method not only do you stay in that very physically pleasurable zone for longer (some say "you can go on all night"),
I remember you said one lover and you did something like the "starfish" position for several hours.

if you see a deep emotional connection as something worthwhile having It sounds worth while.

(I'm not sure BB does, from what you've said.)

Some of her or our problems are her pinkness, some the co-dependency program the hospital was running while she was a med nurse, and some issue due to lack of hormones due to aging and after effects from her meds. Of course attitude plays a large roll.

It was cold and rainy last night but BB did not want to cuddle, she said typical menopausal problems of wanting her space. The dog got top spot.

Hopefully you and your bf can make some good times happen.

Lou