RE Lil "Exchanges" did y'all try?
Because I did not buy or read the book, I assume exchanges are exercises with specific activities.

BB doesn't see the point of an O for her
No, she doesn't see the point of trying for an "O." She said she was sexually frustrated prior to my 1981 back surgery lost the desire when I could not do much during recovery.


I will admit to working too much and not understanding the sexual desires and needs of some women due to all of the "women don't really like sex, they just do it to please their H's" / FOO and all of the just want to be held column in Ann Landers.

Another thing that did not help, I slept on the floor by the bed for a couple of months. The floor was the only place comfortable for more than an hour. Sitting was uncomfortable so I watched TV laying on the floor.

Ues, BB is still hurt bo things that happened in the 70's and 80's. I have said I did not fully understand what she was grumpy about then and I know know what I should have done. I said if she wanted to try something to bring back some feelings, I would be open to suggestions. I said I was sorry I neglected her back then.

We both spent too much money and that I felt it was up to me to keep things paid up, so I worked a lot to pay bills, not to avoid her. She say me working as a way to avoid her or as a way for me to do what I wanted to do and let her fend for herself.

doesn't see the point of ML at all
Said she lost her hormones and does not feel anything sexual, but knows I burn inside with sexual energy, so she does it for me if she gets her back rubs and lots of attention before sex.

Lil, I have observed people that seem contrary, picky, say they don't like to do certain things, but they do them. I have also seen some people verbally to agree to do somethings then never do them. I guess BB is a complainer/ picky person that does somethings despite her verbal objections.

I had similar dealings when I worked in the group home. Promiser's bailed on me and complainers grudgingly did the work sometimes.

doesn't see the point of being emotionally and physically close and feeling good without an O
Sometimes she does see the point as long as it is not too intense, not too often for her, does not involve much work in return. But there are also some times when I with draw, she is the pursuer. So I know some physicality / romance is important to her.

doesn't see the point in general
Used to see the point but sees the aging process as barriers to many physical activities IE, "mother nature did not build older women's bodies to do that," "no hormones."

So we She was frustrated back in 1970/80's, she has no hormones, body wearing out and women past XX years are not built for much of anything physical, and we need to give up some things.

I suppose her and my extra weight also play a factor in loss of interest. BTW, I cut my carbs in half but I am not going to go for bacon grease thing.

I hope you and bf get some good from the books.

Lou