thanks kent,
i think i'm ok, but i better put this ginsu knife back in the kitchen where it belongs, it mysteriously appeared here on the table when i got home last night. I would like to hear some other views and opinions, they really help me get a well rounded set of options to think about. Man, I guess God was preparing me for this. I felt an urgency to read Dobson an I'll be darned if it wasn't just what I needed.