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The LD man still has approximately 20x the testosterone of a woman


Where in the he11 did this little factoid come from? (Not that I expect you to actually answer that question.)

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Women’s testosterone 11x less than men =>
Biological basis for lower drive in women =>
Minimizes emotional/relational contribution to female drive =>
Eliminates role of male emotional/relational responsibilities =>
Eliminates need for male introspection, self analysis =>
Eliminates need to confront personal FOO issues =>
Default conclusion is that the males is OK =>
CeMAR is fine, caring H and W is messed up!


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Lillie,

I'm so glad you said that, I sure as hell thought it. I'm just tired of responding to CeMar.

I'm actually quite surprised no one has brought up NPD regarding CeMar. Perhaps not NPD per say...but he seems to exhibit quite a few narcissistic traits. So there....I've thrown it out there.

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CeMar,

Are you kidding! No way will I ever believe that I, or any woman, has the innate inclination to desire good sex less than any man! Have you been reading Freud?

Please understand...my " less pressure" method would not work (and didn't work in the beginning) if we hadn't put in all the work with the MC. You have to come to an agreement about what the rules are. He or she (whoever is LD) has to agree to the basics. Believe this: being married to a LD husband is no easier that a LD wife. Of course, each INDIVIDUAL person will respond to different methods.

If you want results, first do the work... and I am sorry to say, sometimes that means pressing the LD spouse until you get a positive response or you find they don't love you enough to go to all that trouble. Scarry!!!! I did it. and I'm glad. Luckily for me, he loves me enough, but if he didn't, I needed to know so I could stop wasting time. The way I saw things was that the marriage was doomed if I didn't push the envelope, so I had nothing to loose.

Don't give up yet; I don't think your lady has got the real message yet. My advice is keep pushing.

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ssbunny:

I wil grant you that women have MORE ability to enjoy sex then men do. However, testosterone is the ONLY known aphrodisiac in existence, and if men have up to 20x more of it in their bodies, I have real trouble equating LD men with LD women. Are there men that could go forever without ANY kind of sex? That is virtually impossible, since normal men produce semen constantly and they have to have a release of some kind. But there are women (like my wife) that would be totally content to NEVER orgasam agin in there lives (she has told me, it is no big deal to her).

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