Jamie, Thanks for sharing what helped and worked for you. I'm learning so much from you. Alot of the things you say, seems to mirror my situation. I'm learning that I can't make H talk about something that he's not ready to discuss. I would go 6 weeks or so with bring up any OR talks and during this time we seem to draw closer. Then something comes over me and it's like I HAVE to know what's on his mind, what's up with us..etc...This always take us those two steps back So I appreciate you telling us that your H had to want to talk about it on his own. That lets me know that there is hope, and I have to practice more patience. I honestly feel that we (H & I) are going in the right direction. I just seem to get inpatient which leads to trying to read into like you said "every move". then there the doubt that things will get right. Stories like your give me the insight needed at the right time. Thank you again Jamie And I pray that God bless your marriage FBOW