cally, have you read cobra's original posts? He and his wife did not start out "in love." His story is quite different from the other situations on this board. That's why stuff that applies to marriages where the partners love each other, or did at one time, don't quite apply to him. You're criticizing him because he won't say he loves her, but he has never claimed to love her. I don't think they have ever claimed to love each other. I think you would be surprised if you familiarized yourself with his sitch.