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I am sooooo sorry!!! And I am not about to tell you that you have to fight for your marriage. As we have always said, only YOU know when you have tried everything and it isn't working and it's time to move on. And if my H had ever taken me by the throat and knocked me down, that would be by done time too!! Please know that DBing can have a lot more to do with surviving this mess than savign the marriage. If you need to leave this board, then do so, but otherwise maybe go visit the Surviving the Big D folder. Others of us have ended up over there in the end, but it isn't the end, it's the beginning for them.
TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF!!! YOU WILL BE MISSED!!