Thanks guys - Things seemed pretty black when I wrote some of the stuff above - I'm horrified about the impact this is going to have on my son, and focusing too much on it just about pushes me over the edge. Thinking too little about it might hurt him, though - I need to find a balance. My W has really put some distance between herself and S5, and I have been able to fill that gap nicely - something I won't be able to do when they're gone. On the other hand, she can go NOW- I've really reached the "F it" stage with that. She doesn't want to move out for reasons, honestly, of convenience. Bodes well for her new relationship, doesn't it? Of course, OM has been identified - by her - as a major doormat for some time. She said something about wanting to spend time with me and S after she's gone - family things. I told her that was unrealistic BS, and that OM wouldn't condone that - her comment: "F him". I told her to grow up - not exactly DB-worthy, but it made me smile! The irony here is that when she begins to despise him, she'll have nothing. Her choice, but it saddens me to see it coming - another "break-up" for my son to live through. I'll bet half the guys on this forum have seen it, or can see it coming.