GEL,

No I don't think he is willing to see anyone yet - he is too "other" focused. He feels the way he feels because of us, because of stress, because of "fill in the blank." This kind of behvior happens to H about 2x/year when his normal low, chronic depression spikes with a bunch of anxiety about something. He won't do this kind of thing again for months therefore, he just passes it off.

The kids didn't see the intial outburst although they did see the aftermath and some of the argument that followed. Strangely, he was more able to talk over some of it with DS14 than he was me.

He does feel overwhelmed and out of control. He said that he had a bad training session the day before due to his inability to get a grip on himself. So that night he sat and stewed and watched the garbage get higher and no one take it out, the dishes stack on the counter while the dishwasher ran and no one doing anything about it the next day..... It is basically a feedback loop. The thing is that he was already out of control, angry, frustrated etc...and he set the rest of us up to be at fault. He could have said - "hey guys, a little help around here?" He could have said, " Hey family, I'm feeling a little frustrated, could you all be extra helpful for a little while?" "He could even have said, Honey, I'm having some trouble could you just listen to me for a while?" Whatever. But no. He sat on the couch and watched for us to "screw up" by being a normal family, doing normal things that usually would not be an issue.

Well, what can I say. Do I want to have sex with this particular manifestation of H? Not really. Am I still horny? Absolutely. Guess that is my problem. What to do with H? Let him know that what he did was out of bounds. I already did that. Suggest he get help. Did that too.

Karen