This is a heated thread, for sure. I hope a lot of learning has gone on here. Rather than comment on slone v. sue interaction, I want to say something to you,Sue. One thing I learned a long time ago, don't use logic with a person who is being illogical. It's like trying to speak French to someone who only speaks Spanish. It's a waste of time and it's frustrating. Even if you speak louder, they won't understand.
If you are talking to your husband and he acts like he's not hearing, not agreeing, not even understanding, stop talking. He understands, even if he doesn't agree. He hears, even if he acts deaf. Admitting he understands or agrees is like admitting defeat to him because he's insecure. Quit talking.
I know there are times where he is relentless. You need to do the best you can to escape his grip. Get away from him. Unless you can do this, you shouldn't remain in your marriage. And that's from the divorce buster.
But that's not why I'm writing. I'm writing because I know how important understanding and communication is to you. Well, my friend, there are times with that husband of yours, you are just not going to get that. So stop trying. If things are better, that's great. But there are certain situations that, no matter how you say something, he just won't get it. So quit trying.
Hope you understand what I mean here and know I know how hard you've been working on yourself and your marriage. I admire you for your effort and for standing your ground with your husband. Just don't let him take your soul.