I had ordered some tapes (not Michelle's) from an infomercial about putting the romance back into your marriage. I introduced them to my H very soon after the discovery and involuntary ending of his affair. One of the suggestions was a week long vacation without children. He was LESS THAN ENTHUSIASTIC. In fact, he was shocked and appalled that I would even think to approach him with the relatively harmless ideas from the tapes. I now know that he was deep into withdrawal.

Because of the hurt brought about by his reaction, I later could not bring myself to bring them out again.

RM, like JW, I think you should be very cautious about involving H in the tapes.

Try to stick to becoming a strong, self-motivated and all around good person. I think that will be very attractive to him.

JW, it's good to see you posting again. I hope the holidays went relatively well for you and your family.