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I had a gut reaction to this.

Your 19 year old daughter who not only has damaged boundaries but is not sure what they are currently is dating a conscionless, desire manipulating, spin doctor (excuse the pun.)

I am judging this from the company he keeps and I have extrapolation issues, that I should really reserve for Wei qui and chess, so I hope the best of his intentions and for your daughter.

since you have been on this BB so long, Ill take your word that her xH is 'a dog' (since they do exist), but I was surprised by your remark.

Your H has made some really positive changes lately. I am happy that you have received these improvements in your M.

Be well, Chrissy. ( translation... go eat something. If you monitor yourself youll be surprised by how differently you feel in general, if you eat regularly.)

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Hi Chrissy!
Sounds like your H is at least trying? With more WOA and such?
That's good. Also glad to hear work is helping with your attitude. Keeping busy with work, exercise, etc is a great way to relieve some stress/depression.
So your 19 year old D is dating a 40+ guy? I'd be suspicious too. Ah, but the proverbial, beauty and power combo, all too common I guess. I'd just worry about her getting in over her head.

Keep well!!
And have some chocolate

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Whew Chrissy. I think your DD is learning some lessons the tough way (don't we all). I am worried about this guy - that it isn't as kosher as it all sounds and/or that the age difference will result in a controlling, infantilizing R that will hurt your DD in the long run. But, of course, you can't do anything to stop that. She has to learn her own lessons. It must be so hard to decide what to say and what not to say.

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Hey guys had a heart to heart with the daughter.
Flat out explained my concerns about the body guards.
She herself had recently flat out asked about the body guards. Suffice the answer was not what I expected yet was in line to my guess earlier. And cannot be devulged publicly. But does explained all the unexpected bussiness trips to DC that pop up.
I plan on meeting this person in the next week or so.
And plan on letting him know that if he puts my baby in any danger he will need need more body guards becauses mommas wrath is worse then any potential threat he is under now.

I also sat down and a long talk to daugther as to why she is dating this guy. While yes I know she has always been attracked to older men. I wanted to make sure that she was not just getting caught up in all the ritz and glamour of being shuffled around and treated like a princess. And forgetting that there was a person not a lifestyle that she needed to care about. I was very suprised by her answers and it seems she really does like this guy as a person. And that for all the titles and responsiblity this guy has he is pretty grounded. Example she took a nap the other day and he cleaned her apartment from top to bottom while she slept. Even scrubbed the bathroom out.(I need a man like that). I have always cut up D19 meat. It was a thing I did to make her feel special as a kid and teenager. Well now he cuts her meat up no matter how upscale restraunt they are at or whos company they are in.

I don't know all and all I feel much better in her reasons for seeing this guy. Her head seems to be in a good place.

So enough of that.



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Blackfoot.

I see you returned in my absense. I am glad!
Hope life is going well for you.

so I hope the best of his intentions and for your daughter.

Hm his intentions I am not sure of. I know his last girlfriend was a few years older then my daughter and he datted her for a year or two. He has stated that he would have continued to date her but her love of the party life was more then he could handle.
My gut reaction is eye candy and ego busters are what these girls are to him.

but I was surprised by your remark.

Not sure why but okay. I am talking about someone who not only messed around on my daughter but did so unprotected and endangered my childs health. I am mom first with her so all my logic and understanding towards the sitch goes out the window and I just see her and her pain.

Your H has made some really positive changes lately. I am happy that you have received these improvements in your M.

Sad that it had to take me finally just giving up and completly emotionally close down towards him to get him to start making the changes. Now there is a good chance of to little to late.

translation... go eat something

Sausage egg and cheese biscuit already consumed today!
actually I have been eatting quite a bit lately gained atleast 10 lbs of late and have even been forcing myself to do the drink atleast 24 ounces of water a day (okay most days). Which I have found has some fairly cool benifits at least for me that no one ever told me about!

Be well have a good day!


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Yes work is helping in some wierd way. I think it is the getting back into a routine thing. And having a reason other then housework to get up. Even days like today when I did not have to work I was still getting up by 9 at the latest. I also on my days off find a reason to leave the house for a while. Today I ran to the next town to McDonalds to get the boys biscuits. Makes me get dressed and get moving. All baby steps in the fighting of the depression but everyday I do it is a little victory.

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Karen,

Learning the hard way seems to be the only way of life anymore.

And yeah I hate the she is 19 out on her own and does not have to follow my rules anymore clause in motherhood lol.

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Chrissy,

This guy may be well intentioned but I couldn't help but focus on a couple of things you said he's done...(Example she took a nap the other day and he cleaned her apartment from top to bottom while she slept. Even scrubbed the bathroom out.(I need a man like that). I have always cut up D19 meat. It was a thing I did to make her feel special as a kid and teenager. Well now he cuts her meat up no matter how upscale restraunt they are at or whos company they are in.)

That's just it YOU (her mother) would do those things for your child. Obviously...she's not his child, but it seems to me that he's parenting her. No 19 year old woman needs her meat cut up for her....especially in front of others. Sorry, but in my perception...that rubbed me really wrong...controlling almost (which it may not be, but that was my gut reaction). Same goes with cleaning HER home from top to bottom (unless they're married)). Straightening up would be one thing...but you don't go into a perfectly healthy person's home and clean their bathroom.....do you? Wash their dishes while they nap...sure, clean their bathroom? Presumptuous.

Just my 2-cents.....there's still quite a bit about this guy that doesn't sit well with me....but I made my fair share of mistakes too.

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Chrissy,

Long ago when I was in college, I was a DJ at a very successful nightclub. That place couldn’t count the money fast enough. The co-owner was young at the time, maybe mid to upper 30s, and was having the time of his life, also hitting one oil well after another. He was hanging out with other rich men and they had a sort of unspoken contest going to see who had the best looking girlfriend. Not only that but who had the most.

I knew his stuff pretty well because he got his start in the small town where I went to high school and his “main” girl was my old high school girlfriend. He paid for an apartment that they shared, but eventually he had 3 or 4 other girls that he helped support – that included a job at this club, maybe some rent or school tuition payment, plenty of gifts and vacations (which were sometimes joint affairs will all of his “harem”). So he would take turns entertaining and sleeping with each girl on a particular night of the week. His “main” girl got to see him 2 or 3 times a week.

It was all a huge ego boost and he had the money to do it (this was back in the early 80s and the heyday of the Texas oil/real estate boom). My point is that this guy sounds like he could be looking to create his own harem too. He may be a nice enough fellow but I seriously doubt he has any interest in someone so young. He may only want someone attractive to hang on his arm for as long as he can and to live out any sex fantasies. If she gets tired of being a trophy catch or starts to demand too much, then he will just dump her and find another one.

Doesn’t it sound odd to you that a CEO, with his own company and his apparent wealth, would clean her apartment and scrub the toilet? He is being WAAAAY too nice. It is false and it is all a trap. He may not hurt your daughter and she might get a lot of gifts, get to travel, get completely spoiled, but I don’t know how that will help her grow. Eventually he will move on, then she will have to settle for a “normal” guy on a normal budget with a normal (an boring) lifestyle. That would be a hard letdown for her to handle. I wouldn’t want my daughter to go through that.


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Hi Chrissy. Good to hear you.

Well now he cuts her meat up no matter how upscale restaurant they are at or who's company they are in.

This might be nice at first but what guy wants a daughter that is 19 but acting like a 6 yr old. (BTW, that is not criticism, just an observation)

My guess both of them will get tired of this setup. I hope both quit before any resentments or controlling behaviors set in.

Cleaning an apt is also a fair way to check out how people live.

Sometimes before when I buy a used car, if I like the vehicle, I wash it and do a mini-cleaning before I pay for the car. I have learned a thing or two doing that.

Good to see the moma-bear in you.

Water and gaining 10# wow and good.

Be well Chrissy.

Lou

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