Hey Grasshopper
jumped over to have a look and there are definately similiarites in your sitch and Xue's
moving forward slowly but without the intimacy you guys want

am thinking
males - sex = emotionally attached attached = intimacy
females - need to feel emotionally attached = intimacy = sex

for you guys sex starts it off
for females sex is the end result

I think overall you are doing really well - building up emotional stability which will eventually lead to what 'you want'

the undies debate that went on awhile back
well I just replaced all my underwear over the past few weeks and some of it is really cool stuff
and there is no male in my life at the moment I did it totally for me

Another DBer on here Frank is seeing a T with his w and the T has said to create sexual tension - play around abit but create tension
dunno if this will work for you or not
it kind of links into the beginnings of a relationship when there is just the getting to know you thing happening and no sex - I guess it is how the whole sex thing began

I think what gets in the way is the fact that you have been intimate many times in the course of your m and now need to start over at the beginning but with someone you know really well already

I think you are doing well on the 'trust' issues and love the way you talk about 'evidence' this is an excellent way to go and a brilliant thought stopping technique used by psychologists

bj


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