Cobra:

Nothing different. It was just one of those nights where she did not reject me. There are many nights where I give my wife a rub down, mostly her legs and lower back. She likes this because it relaxes her. One problem with this is that the techniques that can arrouse her are also the same techniques that can put her to sleep, so it is a real fine line to toe. What I did last night I did 2 nights ago and it put her to sleep just as I thought she was being arroused.

I can have far more sex then I currently get if I just "Ask" for it. That effectively takes ALL the EC out of it. I can spend hours doing all kinds of nive things to her body, and then she rolls over and says "Ok, let's take care of you" like I am some kind of freaking chore. That's why I say that we have sex, but we never ML. Making Love requires that BOTH parties have a strong interest in sex. Since she has little interest in sex, I basically get table scrapes while she gets a 7 course meal. I read what the HD women on these boards like to do for their men, and that is LIGHT YEARS beyond what my wife does. I want a full blown partner in my sex life, not just a body to use.