Okay, I know I'm in for a long fight here. But when do I take the next step? When is it okay to ask her for a "date"? I know I need to give ehr space but how will I know when/if she is ready for more? Patience is clearly not one of my strong poimts, and has been a problem for our marriage. Should I just let her bring up the R talks? Should I just let her initiate all contact? We do have kids, I have them everyday after school so I do see the W everyday....which makes this all the more difficult for me. It is so hard to see her and not tell her what is on my mind. I just want to scream.