Okay, well, ya know what I meant. Maybe I meant the Ascetics or something...the people who completely give up/deny their base urges.
One more thing that occurred to me. HG, if you did end up getting a D, what do you mean by "lose access to my kids"?
If you mean that you won't see them every day, as you do now, you're right. But you'll still see them during your custody time. I know I'm jumping the gun here, but I guess I just wanted to know what preconceived notions you might have about divorced dads. I have custody of my kids from my first marriage for approximately 45 percent of the week. Not bad, considering that the big question I asked myself before divorcing was "can I be a better parent to them without her?" Given her NPD, drug and alcohol abuse, etc., the answer was yes. And I don't regret the decision.