Thank you Being Me, you are right, and I already knew what I need to do, but it is helpful to hear it from someone else as well, it's support! Last night he began a R talk, I had actually been having a preety good day. It's always the same with him, I love you but not like that, I don't know if I ever will again. We talked for hours and we were both very sad, then went to bed and he cried for a long time. He doesn't want to let go of either of us, and I am starting to feel like if he TRULY loves the OW, who am I to stand in the way of that? He has so many issues and is so confused, he needs help. I think that at the young age of 34 he is spiraling onto depression and MLC, and I do not want to abandon him in that. My counselor had told me to hold onto the vision when times get clouded, I am so trying to do that, and not let my pride get in the way.