NG:
At first, I read your reply and went, "Hey...I thought it was a pretty good response; it's direct, honest, and sets a boundary."

Then, I thought about it, and I think you're right. I've actually recognized this as part of my problem right now. I'm so into "boundaries" that I'm over-doing it.

What you're saying is be honest and be ... gulp ... vulnerable. That "try not to take it personally" is so hard to do in this type of situation. It takes a lot of mental energy to look at HG's wife's behavior and make it about things going on in her, or "projection" or whatever.

Geeze, I can feel myself getting all angry for HG all over again.

HG: You definitely need to talk to your W about this. If you can do it from a place of calmness within you, you are a better man than I am.

Hairdog