Barney,

BTW, I first skimmed your post and came to the paragraph where you wrote an example of what SHE could say without realizing what it was. I almost lost consciousness. (The HD part of me still surfaces on occassion.)

Well if nothing else your reaction to my simple words prove the point you find woman comfortable in speaking and showing there sexuality/desire in a strong mannor. Nothing wronge with that.
The question is now that NG has seen a direct example and your response would she feel comfortable with this? Does she understand it is not about the sex but about the direct admission of want/desire for you and that you want her to be seeking self pleaser not just pleasing you.
Sorta give you a chance to respond to her desire instead of her responding to yours.

Give her a few days to ponder it then ask her not here on this board but at home. Or maybe she will broach the subject with you if she choices. I don't know what your two have in agreement with both of your usage of this board. I am assuming since you both have your own threads and are not crossing into each others threads that is by agreement of some sort and that you are taking ideas and insights and your personal responses and addressing them with each other directly. Which is a good thing. Keeps all of us able to speak to you both without getting in the cross fire if something erupts.



My first thought is that acceptance in every other area is like realizing that W will never be able to cook my favorite meal. OK, I'll still be able to eat it at the local restaurant. But since this is about sex, one of my 4 basic needs (food, water, air, sex), it's more like thinking W is unable to cook my favorite food so I can never have it. I have to learn to accept what she cooks and give kudos as if it were my favorite meal.

I understand exactly what you are saying here. Makes great sense.
No you should not have to pretend that what ever she cooks is your favorite meal. But maybe your craving for your favorite meal is keeping you from enjoying what she is actually cooking. And over looking the fact she is still cooking differnt things for you in hopes that you will find something that you like.
On the other hand yes she should keep attempting to cook that favorite meal of yours so you do not have to do without it for the rest of your life.
Just remember it may take her numorous attempts to perfect it and make it taste as good as your expectations. And your gonna have to eat the almost the right taste meals and show appreciation for them to keep her inspired to keep on trying. And you never know she might throw to much salt in it one day you find that it is better then it was in your cravings. Even if it is not exactly the same ingredience.


NG prefers me not posting so I guess I'm done.

Thats a shame but good of you to take her feelings into consideration. Maybe you can find another support website to post on or another means of support for yourself

I wish the two of you luck.