Oh and one more thing. The initial point I was trying to make, before getting lost in a haze of *interesting* anecdotes is this: sometimes the problem really is the sex.
I would say stuff like "I'm just not that interested in sex" or "It's easier for me to have sex in an uncommitted relationship, so my interest wears off when we became more committed" or "I'm just too stressed/busy/tired right now." Now here's the catch: In fact, none of these excuses were really true.
Now, as I've conveyed above, F and I had plenty of issues. But one issue that (possibly) could have been fixed was my LD-ness. If he had been willing to examine what he was doing and listen to my spoken and unspoken wishes.
Yeah, maybe it wouldn't have been *exactly* the way he wanted it, but he would have gotten a much more enthusiastic partner and a lot more sex.
Now, of course, some people are just naturally LD (or at least they think they are). But some people, like me, are situationally LD.
And the way to fix it -- in my case, anyway -- would have been for F to stop complaining that I wasn't enthusiastic or available enough and for him to step up to the plate and realize that what worked for him might not be working for me.
The statement by his ex-wife that he made her feel like a prostitute should have been a huge wake up call to him that he was being selfish and only considering what he liked (whether she O'd or not)
For me, complaining, begging, whining are a HUGE turn off. Not considering my needs is also a big problem.
Not sure where I'm going with this. But I just thought it was something you guys out there with LD/ND wives might want to consider.