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This morning is no different. W is pleasant to talk to. I came up behind her and rubbed her shoulders. She told me to stop, because she was holding her coffee and she didn't need to be rubbed 'anywhere'. Her tone was crappy.

This fits my W too. Could it be that we are just seeing the natural cycle of this kind of stuff from the WAW? They say they get close, then pull back, get close, pull back, etc.


When you say it fits your W too, do you mean she has gone throught this 'cycle' a few times? Or it's just something she's doing right now?

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You may just need to chill and wait for a bit, going back to the more detached, DBing Frank. IF she does come back around, then you have established a pattern that should allow you some peace of mind should it happen again.
I know it is hard after all this time and energy. The good part is that you don't HAVE TO want this right now. Remember not too long ago when you decided that you had to really start detaching? That was right before this latest insanity by your W. Well, you started that process because you realized that you didn't want or need the constant drama and heartache, NOT because you didn't love your W.


It IS HARD after she was willing to give me so much. It hurts and I am sure that no matter how hard I try I give off 'needy' vibrations. I know that isn't helping, but I let myself get sucked in to the emotions.

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Look, she is human, and so are you. You happen to be an extremely intelligent human, and she happens to be an extremely emotional one. You are trying to figure her our and she's trying to figure out her emotions. Her emotion is clouding her intelligence and your intellegence is hindering your emotional stability. I think if you both could let go, you to over thinking, and her to over feeling, then things would follow a course neither of you could predict, and that would be good...ah, but that would be a prefect world, now wouldn't it?


You sound like my Counselor. That is her exact description of our 'problems'. We're out of balance intellectually and emotionally. And we're complementary to each other, kind of a Yin / Yang thing. We could do great things together if we could resolve all these issues.

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Give yourself a break, step back, talk to your C, observe your W, give love and support to the kids and see what tomorrow brings. It's sure to be something different.


Yeah, I'm just hating this current 'cycle' because we were getting very close to each other so it hurts more. I know I must go back to 'not caring' like I was. The more I stayed detached the more she moved towards me. I just hate it.


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