RE: Karen1 I just read a book called "Peace Between the Sheets" that recommends lovemaking with no orgasm because biology says that after lovemaking people (especially men) are no longer biologically motivated to "be nice" and that people tend to have a lot of post coital arguments. There is a long drawn out explanation of this in the book. I couldn't get into the philosphy but it was interesting.

ML w/o an "O", (guys not having a traditional "O") My gosh, do you want us guys to go nuts??????

To read more about not having an "O", Google (Tantra KAREZZA TECHNIQUES) or the Oneida, New York, 1848, ("male continence") by John Humphrey Noyes.

Kare1, (no longer biologically motivated to "be nice" )This happens to BB, not me. I have the O, she does not. She refuses to try to O and has done so for the past 25 years.

Interesting concept in "Peace Between the Sheets" I wondered if other people had this problem/situation. Someone wrote a book about it so their must be others experiencing these feelings.

It works in reverse for me. Ihis is one reason I don't push for more sex/ML. If we have sex/ML, I get what I want for the day but have to watch out sometimes for her grumpyness the day after.

I will have to agree with HP's position I also find my H to be much happier and more personable when we are having sex on a regular basis than when we aren't

HP, LD men? Me=sometimes when the financial pressures get high. Too much work to get BB interested, (past history)=Concerned about another pregnancy when the last one was a little tough / had enough kids. Me=HD at a different time of the day/evening than BB, this has been an on going problem, though BB denies it.

I have to agree with the statements, if you are not getting it enough, it is like a diet. All you think about are foods you like but can't have. If the LD ups the frequency/quality, the HD will be less dissatisfied and most of the frequency/quality issues will lessen.

Again it is not only about frequency, it is about quality and wanting to be wanted/appreciated/loved.

Lou