Regarding your examples on the scarcity of women oriented strip clubs, magazines, etc., I don’t think that has anything to do with men stopping those types of businesses from starting up, but rather the demand from women for those services is just not there. If there is sufficient demand, the business will come. And it will likely be led by profit hungry men. Even in your small town, I would be willing to bet that women were as much behind the drive to stop a male strip club as were the men. The one-sidedness of male to female oriented business is not due to some conspiracy, its just that not enough women want it.
Why aren’t there more romance and fantasy novels written for men, by men? Because men don’t a flip about them and won’t buy them, that’s all.
I often don't feel like I can say anything to you without you somehow saying I'm being feminist.
Let me ask you this… why should your hesitancy bother you? Are you feeling pressure from me (or other men), that any “feminist” comment you make will trigger a response? Do you feel like big brother is watching you?
Well, that is a lot how I feel, and I think other men feel the same too. It’s not so much that I am on an anti-feminism kick, but this is an issue in which I see double standards.
Just becaues a woman has a view different than yours on issues such as this doesn't make her a feminist....
Exactly, and just because a man likes to look at swimsuit models doesn’t mean he is objectifying women. It is women’s interpretation that this is what the men are doing. I see the problem as women being insecure about their bodies, so they impress upon us men that we should not like what we like. Instead we should like something else. Just because I like to look at swimsuit models doesn’t mean I expect my wife to look like one. But I see no harm in looking, or admitting that is an ideal which is attractive to me. Why should that affect how I feel about her?
To instead tell me that I should prefer to look at middle-aged, overweight, sagging women is only meant to address the insecurity of women who base their own self worth on their looks. This is their issue, not the man’s.
.....but how would you feel if your W constantly viewed naked men with hard on's (or whatever turned her on) and either compared them to you....or basically ignored you?
Personally, I could care less if she looked at something like Playgirl. In fact, if it got her aroused more, I’d subscribe to it for her. The second part of your statement is not in line with what I am talking about though. No where have I condoned men for comparing their wives to swimsuit models or ignoring them. Neither of these should be done, but that does not exclude men from looking at the pictures.
So you see, to me this is about women’s insecurity, but trying to make it the man’s responsibility. Sorry, I won’t own that one.
